Não curto a alta variancia do PS

digobr69: PokerStars Game #22103169801: Tournament #120990025, $1.00+$0.20 Hold’em No Limit – Level IV (50/100) – 2008/11/16 18:43:42 ET
Table ‘120990025 1’ 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: SummerEleven (1255 in chips)
Seat 2: digobr69 (1090 in chips)
Seat 4: 99ga_peach (3845 in chips)
Seat 5: baemmm (1900 in chips)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° (1630 in chips)
Seat 8: LaLeccia (2720 in chips)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 (1060 in chips)
Maniac1310: posts small blind 50
SummerEleven: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to digobr69
digobr69: calls 100
99ga_peach: folds
baemmm: folds
°rom1bauer°: folds
LaLeccia: folds
Maniac1310: raises 200 to 300
SummerEleven: calls 200
digobr69: calls 200
*** FLOP ***
Maniac1310: checks
SummerEleven: bets 955 and is all-in
digobr69: calls 790 and is all-in
Maniac1310: calls 760 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (165) returned to SummerEleven
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SummerEleven: shows (high card Ace)
digobr69: shows (three of a kind, Sixes)
digobr69 collected 60 from side pot
Maniac1310: shows (three of a kind, Kings)
Maniac1310 collected 3180 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3240 Main pot 3180. Side pot 60. | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: SummerEleven (big blind) showed and lost with high card Ace
Seat 2: digobr69 showed and won (60) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 4: 99ga_peach folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 5: baemmm folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 8: LaLeccia (button) folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 (small blind) showed and won (3180) with three of a kind, Kings

PokerStars Game #22103206266: Tournament #120990025, $1.00+$0.20 Hold’em No Limit – Level V (75/150) – 2008/11/16 18:45:02 ET
Table ‘120990025 1’ 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SummerEleven (165 in chips)
Seat 2: digobr69 (60 in chips)
Seat 4: 99ga_peach (3845 in chips)
Seat 5: baemmm (1900 in chips)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° (1630 in chips)
Seat 8: LaLeccia (2720 in chips)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 (3180 in chips)
SummerEleven: posts small blind 75
digobr69: posts big blind 60 and is all-in
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to digobr69
99ga_peach: folds
baemmm: folds
°rom1bauer°: folds
LaLeccia: folds
Maniac1310: folds
Uncalled bet (15) returned to SummerEleven
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SummerEleven: shows (high card King)
digobr69: shows (a pair of Sevens)
digobr69 collected 120 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 120 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: SummerEleven (small blind) showed and lost with high card King
Seat 2: digobr69 (big blind) showed and won (120) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: 99ga_peach folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 5: baemmm folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 8: LaLeccia folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 (button) folded before Flop (didn’t bet)

PokerStars Game #22103230084: Tournament #120990025, $1.00+$0.20 Hold’em No Limit – Level V (75/150) – 2008/11/16 18:45:55 ET
Table ‘120990025 1’ 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SummerEleven (105 in chips)
Seat 2: digobr69 (120 in chips)
Seat 4: 99ga_peach (3845 in chips)
Seat 5: baemmm (1900 in chips)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° (1630 in chips)
Seat 8: LaLeccia (2720 in chips)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 (3180 in chips)
digobr69: posts small blind 75
99ga_peach: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to digobr69
baemmm: folds
°rom1bauer°: folds
LaLeccia: folds
Maniac1310: folds
SummerEleven: folds
digobr69: calls 45 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (30) returned to 99ga_peach
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
digobr69: shows (three of a kind, Fives)
99ga_peach: shows (a pair of Fives)
digobr69 collected 240 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 240 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: SummerEleven (button) folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 2: digobr69 (small blind) showed and won (240) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 4: 99ga_peach (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 5: baemmm folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 8: LaLeccia folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 folded before Flop (didn’t bet)

PokerStars Game #22103247422: Tournament #120990025, $1.00+$0.20 Hold’em No Limit – Level V (75/150) – 2008/11/16 18:46:32 ET
Table ‘120990025 1’ 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: SummerEleven (105 in chips)
Seat 2: digobr69 (240 in chips)
Seat 4: 99ga_peach (3725 in chips)
Seat 5: baemmm (1900 in chips)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° (1630 in chips)
Seat 8: LaLeccia (2720 in chips)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 (3180 in chips)
99ga_peach: posts small blind 75
baemmm: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to digobr69
°rom1bauer°: folds
LaLeccia: folds
Maniac1310: raises 300 to 450
SummerEleven: calls 105 and is all-in
digobr69: calls 240 and is all-in
99ga_peach: folds
baemmm: folds
Uncalled bet (210) returned to Maniac1310
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Maniac1310: shows (a pair of Threes)
digobr69: shows (three of a kind, Threes)
digobr69 collected 315 from side pot
SummerEleven: shows (two pair, Queens and Threes)
digobr69 collected 495 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 810 Main pot 495. Side pot 315. | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: SummerEleven showed and lost with two pair, Queens and Threes
Seat 2: digobr69 (button) showed and won (810) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 4: 99ga_peach (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: baemmm (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 8: LaLeccia folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 showed and lost with a pair of Threes

PokerStars Game #22103337360: Tournament #120990025, $1.00+$0.20 Hold’em No Limit – Level V (75/150) – 2008/11/16 18:49:50 ET
Table ‘120990025 1’ 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: digobr69 (1035 in chips)
Seat 4: 99ga_peach (4175 in chips)
Seat 5: baemmm (1675 in chips)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° (1405 in chips)
Seat 8: LaLeccia (2420 in chips)
Seat 9: Maniac1310 (2790 in chips)
Maniac1310: posts small blind 75
digobr69: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to digobr69
99ga_peach: folds
baemmm: folds
°rom1bauer°: folds
LaLeccia: calls 150
Maniac1310: raises 300 to 450
digobr69: raises 585 to 1035 and is all-in
LaLeccia: folds
Maniac1310: calls 585
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Maniac1310: shows (three of a kind, Kings)
digobr69: shows (a straight, Ten to Ace)
digobr69 collected 2220 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2220 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 2: digobr69 (big blind) showed and won (2220) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 4: 99ga_peach folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 5: baemmm folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 7: °rom1bauer° folded before Flop (didn’t bet)
Seat 8: LaLeccia (button) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Maniac1310 (small blind) showed and lost with three of a kind, Kings

prof_anselmo: daria pra ser mais específico quanto a sua variância…?

GremistaEterno: Quando ele é favorito perde, e quando não é, acaba ganhando.

Creio que seja isto, eu tenho o mesmo problema com o Poker Stars. Apesar de ser um dos softwares com mais recursos, acabo me afastando muito dele por esses tipos de jogadas.

Jardim: Jah tirei todo o bankroll q tinha no PS ha algum tempo.

Eh a room q eu acho q tem mais recursos (nivel de jogadores, satellites e etc), porem, nao sei, tenho algo pessoal por lah, parece q sempre dou “azar”.

Prefiro jogar no UB, FT e AB. Qnd eles me derem algum bonus, eu volto a jogar por lah e assim q fizer um bom bankroll, tiro novamente.

😀

Petrillo: Sinceramente galera, não estou entendendo estes tópico.

Vocês tão querendo dizer que o algoritmo do PokerStars tem problemas? E que o digobr69 é favorecido?

Galera, o digobr69 era short stack e foi all in com mãos razoáveis (menos aquela Q5! ;)) e acerteu uns bad beats. Ok.

Eu particularmente não jogo nunca torneios com rake maior que 10%, e este de $1,20 do PS então… Somando com os torneios turbo do Party Poker, é uma festa de bad beats…

Mas isso não que dizer que os algoritmos estejam errados. Esqueçam este esquema de sorte. Quantas jogadas aconteceram que o favorito ganhou?

Digobr69, me envia o history de qualquer destes torneios e vou fazer análise dos showdowns e vamos ver se tem muita variância. Pegando 100 showdowns, aposto $10 com qualquer um aqui do fórum que os favoritos venceram mais de 50% das vezes, sem contar as mãos que não foram a showdown.

Alguém topa? :happy34:

Digobr69, se quiser me enviar, meu e-mail é [email protected].

icemanjr0: eu particularmente jogo mais no party poker, poker star e de vez em qdo no full tilt, as vezes noto que vem sequencias de boas cartas, o mesmo para as que nao sao boas, pois é ae que temos q ter cuidado, pois sao programas randomicos, onde que nestas sequencias, qdo achamos que estamos bem, tem outros com maos muito melhores, coisas do poker.

digobr69: Não petrillo, meu objetivo não é este, postei apenas de forma meio “sarcástica”,…de jeito nenhum sou favorecido ou prejudicado pelo algoritmo do ps…apenas algumas coincidencias de uma pequena amostra…

eu não curto muito o ps, ja faz um tempo e isso aconteceu devido a uns bad beats que tomei nos majors, mesmo quando tinha bk para jogar o sunday million dei entrada apenas 3 vezes e nas 3 sai com AA nas etapas iniciais do torneio, blinds razoaveis ainda e com pouco limp pf…analisei ja e vi que jogaria sempre da mesma forma tal mãos…vem dae minha implicancia com PS ….porém sei que isso aconteceu devido a uma amostra muito pequena de mãos porém isto me bloquiou e criei uma espécie de preconceito pelo fato

mas ja estou recuperando a auto estima nele …joguei pela tarde hoje e nas 2 mesas que joguei fiz HU …até me fez repensar algumas jogadas que joguei soft scary anteriormente e isto me fez jogar de forma normal hoje..

no fear PS :coolgleam:

abs

Petrillo: Ahahaha!

Beleza Digo!

É que o PS é hoje o principal poker room, e assim, atrai todo o tipo de jogador…

Não vou querer ensinar um jogador semi-profissional como você, mas quero te dizer que persevere. Você sabe: o importante é sempre tomar a melhores decisões.

Espero que em breve tu monte um bk legal para moer os caras do PS!!! GL!!

Um grande abraço!

Petrillo.

Autor original: digobr69.

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