Rkinta: Guys, I've been feeling like this is a big leak of mine. I feel like I'm very insecure when I have top pair and the villain doesn't leave the hand. To illustrate, I'll post some hands:
Hand 1: No info on Villain. Since he limped in, I put him at 99-.
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10 players
MEGACHUBAKA (BB): $2.34
Dutchll (UTG+1): $5.70
Medusus (UTG+2): $8.56
RKint (MP): $4.06
MJTT7 (MP+1): $5.34
xXJ0T4Xx (MP+2): $2.05
MighTyGeF (CO): $2.31
wh1teLakedepfal (BTN): $5.81
Mroeper (UTG): $1.00
mazachhcazam (SB): $4.59
Hero is MP with Ahearts, Aclubs
Preflop: ( $0.06 )
Dutchll calls $0.04, Medusus raises to $0.16, RKint raises to $0.48, 6 folds, Dutchll calls $0.44, 1 fold
Flop: ($1.18) 8clubs, 5diamonds, 6clubs (3 players)
Dutchll checks, RKint bets $0.88, Dutchll calls $0.88
Turn: ( $2.94 ) 6spades (3 players)
Dutchll checks, RKint bets $1.47, Dutchll calls $1.47
River: ( $5.88 ) 3hearts (3 players)
Dutchll bets $2.87 (all-in), Hero???
Hand 2: Villain is a reg, 15/12 in 1k+ hands. My first question is: does this call exist out of position? What flops make me continue after a c-bet from him?
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10 players
MEGACHUBAKA (MP+2): $3.88
Dutchll (CO): $5.28
Medusus (BTN): $8.56
RKint (SB): $4.02
MJTT7 (BB): $5.40
xXJ0T4Xx (UTG): $2.48
MighTyGeF (UTG+1): $2.31
wh1teLakedepfal (UTG+2): $5.00
xxxPRESTONxxx (MP): $1.50
mazachhcazam (MP+1): $4.63
Hero is SB with Adiamonds, Jspades
Preflop: ( $0.06 )
2 folds, wh1teLakedepfal raises to $0.16, 5 folds, RKint calls $0.14, 1 fold
Flop: ( $0.36 ) Aspades, 3diamonds, Qspades (2 players)
RKint checks, wh1teLakedepfal bets $0.24, RKint calls $0.24
Turn: ( $0.84 ) 5 clubs (2 players)
RKint checks, wh1teLakedepfal bets $0.56, RKint calls $0.56
River: ( $1.96 ) 3clubs (2 players)
RKint checks, wh1teLakedepfal bets $1.18, Hero???
Hand 3: This is another type of hand that I have doubts about. When I play KK, I tend to think that all villains have Ax in their hand. What is the best line here?
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10 players
MEGACHUBAKA (UTG): $4.02
Dutchll (UTG+1): $5.34
Medusus (UTG+2): $8.62
RKint (MP): $4.04
MJTT7 (MP+1): $5.40
xXJ0T4Xx (MP+2): $2.48
MighTyGeF (CO): $2.34
wh1teLakedepfal (BTN): $5.00
xxxPRESTONxxx (SB): $1.46
mazachhcazam (BB): $4.06
Hero is MP with Kspades, Khearts
Preflop: ( $0.06 )
3 folds, RKint raises to $0.16, 2 folds, MighTyGeF calls $0.16, 2 folds, mazachhcazam calls $0.12
Flop: ($0.50) 2hearts, Adiamonds, 6diamonds (3 players)
mazachhcazam checks, RKint bets $0.25, 1 fold, mazachhcazam calls $0.25
Turn: ( $1.00 ) 5 clubs (2 players)
mazachhcazam checks, RKint checks
River: ( $1.00 ) Ahearts (2 players)
mazachhcazam bets $0.75, Hero???
Hand 4: Villain is reasonably loose in a few hands. He had around 40 hands and was playing 25/13.
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10 players
ATenshi (BTN): $3.00
incrase1988 (SB): $5.40
Butarong (BB): $0.80
SHANS1Kua (UTG): $4.88
LivTragedy (UTG+1): $0.65
Tronsk09 (UTG+2): $4.43
RKint (MP): $6.01
Simanchik85 (MP+1): $3.80
syn12312 (MP+2): $5.00
KamerunDias11 (CO): $4.50
Hero is MP with Qdiamonds, Qclubs
Preflop: ( $0.06 )
SHANS1Kua calls $0.04, 1 fold, Tronsk09 raises to $0.20, RKint raises to $0.60, 7 folds, Tronsk09 calls $0.40
Flop: ($1.30) 9clubs, 6clubs, Tdiamonds (2 players)
Tronsk09 checks, RKint bets $0.65, Tronsk09 calls $0.65
Turn: ( $2.60 ) 4spades (2 players)
Tronsk09 checks, RKint bets $1.30, Tronsk09 calls $1.30
River: ( $5.20 ) 8spades (2 players)
Tronsk09 bets $1.88 (all-in), Hero???
Hand 5: Mega tight villain. 10/5 in 250 hands.
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10 players
WiedieKana (SB): $1.10
Lenkomoff (BB): $5.06
AK070707 (UTG): $6.37
syn12312 (UTG+1): $5.00
RKint (UTG+2): $3.91
norco192 (MP): $2.54
92alex92 (MP+1): $4.44
wiyouest (MP+2): $4.11
xGambatx (CO): $4.90
AAAAchicho (BTN): $6.25
Hero is UTG+2 with Qspades, Ahearts
Preflop: ( $0.06 )
1 fold, RKint raises to $0.16, 1 fold, 92alex92 calls $0.16, 3 folds, lenkomoff calls $0.12
Flop: ($0.50) Aspades, Tdiamonds, 2clubs (5 players)
lenkomoff checks, RKint bets $0.37, 92alex92 calls $0.37, 1 fold
Turn: ( $1.24 ) Thearts (4 players)
RKint bets $0.93, 92alex92 calls $0.93
River: ( $3.10 ) 4diamonds (4 players)
RKint checks, 92alex92 bets $1.55, Hero???
Hand 5: Another very tight villain. 12/9 in 400 hands. What did you think of the check-raise? And after he shoved? IPoker $2.00 USD NL No Limit Hold'em Hand Converter
10 players
ysbrady (CO): $2.00
MakiyJ (BTN): $2.29
WiedieKana (SB): $1.10
SyderiLeon (BB): $2.00
JoaoGP (UTG): $1.57
Renford (UTG+1): $4.27
RKint (UTG+2): $4.05
RdyToWin (MP): $2.00
MonterMechnikov (MP+1): $4.94
Arkasha32 (MP+2): $1.94
Hero is UTG+2 with Ahearts, Kdiamonds
Preflop: ( $0.03 )
2 folds, RKint raises to $0.08, 3 folds, MakiyJ raises to $0.26, 2 folds, RKint calls $0.18
Flop: ($0.55) Qhearts, Aclubs, Tspades (3 players)
RKint checks, MakiyJ bets $0.40, RKint raises to $1.20, MakiyJ raises to $2.03 (all-in), Hero???
danielthepower: hand 1 – for me the guy got three of a kind, you're betting on all the streets and he's calling, certainly with a pocket pair, on the river the guy comes back all in???? He must have got three of a kind on the flop or called wrong until the river and got three of a kind
Hand 2 – You hit top pair and why are you checking? There is no call in this situation. If you think the villain has AK or AQ, check/fold on the flop. Now the call is terrible. You went all the way to the river without any reading of the villain, just calling. Another thing is that the turn and the river are irrelevant. So if you called on the flop, why wouldn't you call on the river? Your situation regarding the villain's hand didn't change at all on the turn or the river, so if you folded on the river, it would have been better to have called on the flop. Unless you knew you were losing and were hoping to improve, then it's an easy fold on the river. There's nothing to think about.
hand 3 – bet on the turn again, you gave away your hand on the turn, so it's easy for the villain to bet again on the river, if he calls, check on the river, you have huge fold equity, you would only get called on the turn for Ax, so bet again on the turn
hand 4 – he definitely has the 7 in his hand and hit the drill on the river, for me it's fold
hand 5 – complicated hand, I don't have much to comment on it, but it's the same story, you checked the river after 2 shots, you'll get bet up to 72o, if you checked the river, fold the bet, for me you were losing
hand 6 – in that one you must have run into an AQ, AT or even TT+, I would fold
It's just my opinion, but I hope it helps in some way 😉
TSawyer: My opinion:
1 – the villain limps in with utg+1 and calls the hero's re-raise. Then the guy has high PP QQ+ or even an AKs (or many drws to a flush).
In these two situations he wouldn't let go of anything, because the flop was very comfortable. So you have 2 situations, 1 to go to the ground or fold.
2 – I agree with the opinion of the friend above, the villain enters out of position and the flop is bad for cbetting, the guy doesn't let go of anything there, there are a lot of outs.
If you put him on Ax, you need to reraise to show strength. By calling, you are in the dark.
3 – 3bet pf and c-bet/fold flop. With a KK in hand, it’s bet fold.
4- The guy has a high PP or he drew to a flush. The guy wouldn't call a high 3bet with air preflop. Then he's dead on the flop or on the river if you put him on the draw.
5- The villain is out of position and only calls your bet. Look, I do this with AK. If I hit, I re-raise and evaluate the villain, imo, for you it's a fold.
6- the villain on the button showing strength. He must have hit something big or was afraid of the sequence and bet to make you fold. I think the right thing to do is fold.
Rkinta: I'll wait for a few more comments to post my action.
Well, just a few explanations: I am aware that I played badly with AJ, however, he was a villain with 80%+ fold c-bet, that is, he didn't usually do much when he didn't hit. I waited to see if he would bluff the 3-streets. But I agree that probably the best play is to 3-bet pf.
KK's hand, Tsawyer, just to clarify, I was the one who open raised.
Rkinta: I'll wait for a few more comments to post my action.
Well, just a few explanations: I am aware that I played badly with AJ, however, he was a villain with 80%+ fold c-bet, that is, he didn't usually do much when he didn't hit. I waited to see if he would bluff the 3-streets. But I agree that probably the best play is to 3-bet pf.
KK's hand, Tsawyer, just to clarify, I was the one who open raised.
Flush: hand 1: bet plus turn, there are still many hands to extract (FD, SD, 8x, 77, 99). I'm going to bet at least 2.20. As played, I fold without information. But he's the guy you have to start watching, to see if he bluffs a lost draw on the river.
Hand 2: Fold please. If there were still donkeys in the blinds, go ahead. As played, fold the river. You're not winning anything on the river when he bets all 3 streets.
Hand 3: He doesn't only have Ax in his hand. He has SD, FD, 2. pair. A good line to play these situations is to bet flop, bet turn and check behind river, because it's very difficult to extract 3 streets of value there, but you continue to charge the worse hands he has. When you check on this turn, you're lost in the hand, because you don't know if his bet is value or bluff.
Hand 4: Bet more on the flop and turn, to extract Tx, FD, JJ, 88, 77. You will play for the stack with this hand against him on this board. Call river.
Hand 5: Boring hand, but I prefer to bet/fold the river with about 60% of the pot to get called by a worse Ax. As played, I'm going to fold, because I think that with worse Ax he checks behind. I think he only bets there with a range that beats you. Fold.
Hand 6: bogged down pf. Your call to play a 3-bet pot out of position is not good. As a player, you have to bogged down. If you raised, it's a floor, but your c/r on the flop is pretty bad and has nothing to do with what you did pre-flop. Why, all of a sudden, did you decide to speed up the hand after just calling pf? If you think you can speed up this hand on the flop, it's a sign that you could have bogged down pf.
Flush: Just one thing: what does AJ's hand have to do with 80% folding to c-bet???? You use this stat when you are the aggressor please, but in this case it was the villain who opened, so I don't understand why you mentioned his fold to c-bet.
Rkinta: Flush, thanks. First, I said that because, although it's not exactly the case, a player with 85%+ fold c-bet is quite passive and that can be reflected in some way in other hands.
I'll post what happened:
Hand 1: I bet small on the turn to see what his action would be, I wasn't sure if he had made a set. Well, I called and he showed 99.
Hand 2: I regretted calling 1s after and the result could not be any other: I played very badly. I folded on this river.
Hand 3: I folded too. I should have bet, of course. I played very badly.
Hand 4: Well, I was cautious with this overpair because I was wondering which overpairs he would call a re-raise with if I did. I could only beat JJ. Even with this 3-bet on the flop, should I bet for value? I called and he had AA.
Hand 5: Villain showed AA.
Hand 6: Here we come to a delicate point, lol. Flush, do you really recommend shoving AK pf? From what I've seen, there have been few shoves with AK and almost always unsuccessful. I'm not trying to be results-oriented, but it really hasn't seemed like +EV to me. Oh, I folded, of course.
Flush: I recommend shoving AK pf, yes, especially in NL2. You still have 30% equity against the top of villain's range (QQ+/AK), but it is a fact that many worse hands shove too. And if you folded on the flop after giving a c/r, your play makes no sense. This type of play you make with hands that have little showdown value (a FD, for example), but not with TPTK.
As for AJ's hand, if you look at his fold to cbet, be careful with this because the fact that he folds a lot to c-bets does not necessarily mean that he is passive. It is much better, in this hand, to look at his c-bet. If he has few c-bets, then we can start to think about passivity.
Original author: Rkinta.