jerdesfiel: Hello everyone! I'm new to the forum and poker, but I have a small problem.
I played for a while on pokerstars in play money, I won a little and thought I was already breaking the bank. Then I went and made my first deposit, $20.00.
It turns out that I obviously blew it all in less than 48 hours playing 0.02/0.04 limit Hold'em. Now I need some guidance. How do I start from scratch and make some profit? Where to play? I saw some people talking about a Sacha tournament on Everest.
Please, whoever can help me. I will be very grateful.
helio17: Friend, the best way to start from scratch is in Everest: in the Shastas SnG Freeroll, which pays 1st 0.05, 2nd 0.03 and 3rd 0.02. Then you go to Fuji, etc.
But you have to be very patient.
jonjonmappa: that's it, everest is the best poker site to start from scratch. I started playing from scratch on everest and I already have 1 real and 21 cents playing shastas, fuji, freeroll there yesterday I won 20 cents and a step coin and that's it, it will give you more in the future, you play on everest.
thanks :)
Tex Wilde: Create an account on Everest and play Shasta. There will be other freeroll tournaments (free registration) that you can play from time to time, these on scheduled dates.
And now the most important thing: never pay for a tournament or sit and go entry fee that costs more than 2.5% of your bankroll. In other words, you must have at least 40 buy-ins of a level to be able to play it without the risk of going broke. After all, even the best player in the world suffers from variance and needs to manage it like that to avoid going broke.
When you have $80 you can leave the SNG and start playing cash games NL2 (blinds 0.01/0.02) and NL4 (the one that broke you on Poker Stars) with $160.
This may seem like a long time, but it's a big school and that's how winning players do it, you really have to be patient.
jonjonmappa: and you can also play the poker tips freeroll with us. ok
Flush: Jerdes, you broke on the Pokerstars because you probably don't know about bankroll management. Take a look at forum articles, or even on the internet, and read about it. Just as a tip, to start playing NL2 cash games, even below the limit you played at, it is advisable to have a bankroll of 60 dollars.
Gabriells: Look, honestly I'm on the side that it's better to read the text “Moving up through NLCashGame” and put 40$ in the PS and play NL 0.01/0.02.
With your 20U$, the right thing to do would probably be to play the 0.25 and 0.10 sits and gain experience and win until you reach 50 and then move on to cash, or whatever you like.
You can start with the shastas of life, but I particularly don't like playing Limit and playing to win 2 cents is sometimes discouraging.
I started playing the 2 freerolls on the Bestpoker website every day, the field never exceeds 850 people and if you make a FT, you already have the bankroll to play a little in the 1.20 DoNs, which are really easy.
And so the bank grows.
If you want the text I mentioned above, just send me a PM. It's really good for those in the micro and small stakes.
Flush: Guys, follow this chart and be happy 😀
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Flush: Guys, follow this pyramid and be happy.
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Gabriells: This pyramid is good to follow up to NL50...after that it becomes crazy to play NL100+ with only 30BI
Flush: Since we are mere mortals of NL2, NL5 or NL10, I think it suits us well. 😀
jerdesfiel: Guys, I'm having a little trouble understanding this table.
NL2 = 0.01/0.02 or 0.02/0.04?
What about the other levels? NL10=?
Thank you for the information you shared through the forum. I started playing Everest and I'm already playing Shasta. I got 0.10 already. I'm playing this afternoon. I came in 3rd, 1st and then 2nd place.
At least I've already recovered $0.10, I only need $19.90. Almost there. LOL
Flush: NL2 means that you must have 2 dollars in front of you to play, with fixed SB/BB of 0.01 and 0.02 cents. It is recommended that you enter a table with 100 BB, hence the amount of 2 dollars.
NL5 = 5 dollars (SB/BB of 0.05/0.10) and so on.
jerdesfiel: NL2 means that you must have 2 dollars in front of you to play, with fixed SB/BB of 0.01 and 0.02 cents. It is recommended that you enter a table with 100 BB, hence the amount of 2 dollars.
NL5 = 5 dollars (SB/BB of 0.05/0.10) and so on.
Then there is something wrong with your account. 100 BB of 0.05/0.10 is equal to $10.
Wouldn't NL5 be 0.02/0.05 and NL10 0.05/0.10?
I'm kind of confused.
Herbert:
Wouldn't NL5 be 0.02/0.05 and NL10 0.05/0.10?
I'm kind of confused.
Exactly 😉
Flush: Yes, Jerdes, I got the NL5 cents mixed up.
0.05 and 0.10 cents are NL10 and not NL5. I wrote one thing thinking another.
However, the 100 BB issue remains.
jerdesfiel: What would be a good percentage of hand wins?
For example, out of 100 hands I win 10. Would that be good?
Herbert: In this case, don't calculate by hands won but by ROI :happy34:
It is clearer that you stipulate a range of hands for example:
You enter a NL2 room with $2 which is recommended, you decide that you need an ROI of 10% to be profitable, so at the end of the 100th hand you have to have $2.20. That way you know how profitable you are ^^
Marcelo: What would be a good percentage of hand wins?
For example, out of 100 hands I win 10. Would that be good?
Your question already shows that it is starting.
Don't worry about the number of hands won.:spade2:
What matters is the profit. But if you are just starting out and have no losses, that would already be a success.
Worry about learning the game and not about how much you're going to earn. That's for later. :coolgleam:
And one more thing, 100 hands in poker doesn't mean anything. 1000 hands in poker is still not enough to draw any statistical conclusions. With 10K (10 thousand) hands you can start to draw conclusions.
Petrillo: Welcome Herbert!!
At the beginning, play only the best hands (TT+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo – if you don't know what this means, ask ;)) and always in position.
Regarding earnings, this is a concern for professionals. Of course we want to be winners, but as Marcelo said, now is not the time.
But just to clarify:
* in SnG/MTT, you calculate the return on investment (ROI);
I use 10% as a reference (because if I make less than 10% it's better to withdraw and put it into a bank's fixed income :))
* in cash game (which seems to be your case), you measure X BB/100 hands played
I use 10BB/100 hands played as a reference. (Guys, you don't calculate ROI in cash games, okay? ;))
Tex Wilde: I use 10% as a reference (because if I make less than 10% it's better to withdraw and put it into a bank's fixed income :))
Just clarifying so people don't take this as a rule Petrillo :happy34:
The goal is to earn more in 1 month of poker than in 1 month of interest at the bank.
At the bank, you increase your bankroll by around 0.6% per month.
Let's suppose you manage 50BI, having an ROI of 10%. This way you can increase 0.1BI per SnG, that is, 0.2% of the bankroll.
With that, playing 3 SnG's per month you will earn the same amount as you would in savings.
This means that having a positive ROI, no matter how small, is more than worth saving, depending on how many games you play per month.
Petrillo: Dude, it's all explained in Bankroll Management: The Ladder to High Stakes | Poker Tips.
When in doubt, play games that represent a maximum of 1% of your bankroll. Example: to play NL2 and SnG with $2.20, you need a bankroll of $200. If you have $20, play the $0.25 SnG tournaments with 90 players.
RicardoSzZ: Very good Topic, very explanatory……
For now I'm participating in the tournaments for free, but following the tips I'll register on Everest to participate in “Sasha's” tournament 😛
Maybe soon I'll be at the Poker table with you guys.
I thought the article was really cool... and following this, the guy certainly won't go broke.
One thing I have with me is… NEVER try to recover what you lost immediately, go back one step, recover and climb the step again. Recovery will occur in the medium/long term.
Petrillo: One thing I have with me is… NEVER try to recover what you lost immediately, go back one step, recover and climb the step again. Recovery will occur in the medium/long term.
Wise words. I totally agree. :happy34:
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