What have you learned from practice?

prof_anselmo: Studying poker (books) is extremely important... but there are things that aren't in the manuals or books...
Example:
I've discovered that if I'm holding AA, I raise 2 x bb and a friend comes in...
flop comes things like 9 2 Q, two of which are gold (suiteds), I raise 3 bb, the guy thinks and calls again, turn Q, I raise to test the guy's hand (if I go all in I'll run far lol), the guy just calls, river comes a 5 gold. I check, the guy goes all in...
What to think? Flush bluff? for Q? minor three of a kind?

prof_anselmo: As it was a looser guy... I didn't fit him in those hands...
I paid and had a nice slice at the event...
the guy had a color!!! easy to read... but because he was a looser... i didn't rate him a nut!!!
And what have you learned from the experience, from the tables?
what tricks do you think are foolproof at the tables...?

henrique_bio: Foolproof tricks? I don't think there are any, but players paying any raise to get a flush is an almost universal truth in low-limit online poker. Just today I was playing a championship on carbon, and I reached the final table. Innocently, I thought that the players who made it to the final wouldn't risk their entire stack on a flush draw. Sweet illusion! So one tactic I've learned from playing is: if there's a possibility of a flush at the table, you can't be too careful. Another trick I've learned in practice is that getting a set while holding a pair in your hand is extremely profitable, so I usually play the vast majority of the times I go out with a pocket pair.

Petrillo: henrique_bio, your post is incredibly cool! I really enjoyed it.

As for being careful against draws, I'd say it all depends on the stage of the tournament. If I have a set and I'm at the very beginning of the tournament and the pot is still small, I can slow down and wait for the table to become more defined. Now, if I'm already ITM or close to the bubble, then I have to put chips in and hope it pays off, because the long-term profit is guaranteed! :thumbsup:

Regarding poket pairs, I believe that playing with them is an art. Both the highs and the lows. I still have a lot of studying to do, because I can improve a lot. Now, there's nothing like being in MP with two limpers, limping in with 33, another one calls, the dealer mini-raises, everyone calls and the 3KA rainbow flop... :happy34:

Jardim: I've learned not to play ANYTHING after a bad beat...

I can't help myself.... It's complicated.
I have to stop to cool off, but it's easy to say, it's hard to do...

GremistaEterno: @ Jardim DNS 28

Hi, try using what I said in the section on concentrating and keeping control.
Here's a link to a quick and easy way to keep up with the game:

//pokerdicas.com/forum/discussao-geral-sobre-poker/109-importancia-da-concentracao.html

I hope it helps, post again how your results were after using the technique.

Thank you, hugs and good game.:spade:

Garden: @ DNS Garden 28

Hi, try using what I said in the section on concentrating and keeping control.
Here's a link to a quick and easy way to keep up with the game:

//pokerdicas.com/forum/discussao-geral-sobre-poker/109-importancia-da-concentracao.html

I hope it helps, post again how your results were after using the technique.

Thank you, hugs and good game.:spade:

Oops, thanks buddy.
I'm reading it here.

Abs

prof_anselmo: great text...approved congratulations

Vadiu: I've learned that loose guys lose in the long run, but they always win at my tables

digobr69: i've learned a lot....he main thing a poker player needs, i believe, is experience and dedication... i can say with great conviction that anyone who has these factors can be a winner at a reasonable limit (nl400- nl600) and earn a very fair salary at brazilian rates every month...

abs

xptoo: I have to agree with vadiu

"I've learned that loose guys lose in the long run, but they always win at my tables"

Onion: I have to agree with vadiu

"I've learned that loose guys lose in the long run, but they always win at my tables"
I totally disagree, if the guy is a good loose who knows how to fold at the right time, he's going to be much more of a winner than a tight one

not to mention that the loose game is much more technical than the tight one

TostesBr: I totally disagree, if the guy is a good loose who knows how to fold at the right time, he'll be much more of a winner than a tight guy

not to mention that the loose game is much more technical than the tight one

I thought your comment was very nice... and I totally disagree with the comment about the loose game being a loser in the long run.

Doyle Brunson says it best.

I find it very difficult to play against strong LAGs, even more so than strong TAGs. You don't know what to expect against a player like Gus Hansen or other great players who have a looser game... the game becomes much more unpredictable and complicated.

xptoo: Another thing I'm learning with practice (I know it's not really true, but sometimes it feels like it):

It's just that everyone wins when they have the king in their hands, except me!!!

Tex Wilde: Don't get emotional when you have a good hand, because it's with good hands that you win a lot or lose a lot.

Petrillo: I thought your comment was very nice... and I totally disagree with the comment about the loose game being a loser in the long run.

Doyle Brunson says it best.

I find it very difficult to play against strong LAGs, even more so than strong TAGs. You don't know what to expect against a player like Gus Hansen or other great players who have a looser game... the game becomes much more unpredictable and complicated.

I agree with Cebola and Tostes' comments.

I'd just like to add that to be a winner in micro stakes (up to NL25 or equivalent SnG and MTT), the only way to be a winner, IMO, is to play TAG, since at these levels folding is not an option (something a LAG desperately needs!). 😀

Petrillo: Don't get emotional when you have a good hand, because it's with good hands that you win a lot or lose a lot.

I agree.

There is a difference between a good hand and a winning hand. You have to attack with a potentially winning hand, putting chips on the board. Now, you have to make a good assessment of all the information available to you to really determine whether your hand is just a good one or a winning one. :happy34:

bigan222: I don't have any infallible techniques, but I do have a few quirks that annoy me from time to time, like always thinking they're bluffing and the like.

Leandrinhuu: I have an infallible technique for you to never lose at poker!!!

DON'T PLAY :happy34:

An infallible technique for never taking a bad beat.

Never enter CRAI winning

These are the infallible tactics!

Now the ones I use are;

Pay attention to the game and the reads of the villains, a player who gives a lot of cbet is the best to win chips.

Pocket is always an acceptable hand.

Position is not everything but 79%.

Notice in which position the raise came out.

I think there are some of these things in books, but if there aren't they should be.

:happy34:

Tex Wilde: Speaking of foolproof techniques, I know one to ship any MTT

Never go all-in against someone who has more chips than you

LeoNeto: My technique at the moment is: stay away from the cash tables!

It's amazing how much I'm getting screwed. NL2 and NL5 are very complicated.

When I enter NL2 with my $2 or NL5 with my $5, I value that money extremely highly. But yesterday, for example, I was in the NL5, with AKs, in a good position at the table, I raised 5BB on PF, some asshole called, the flop came 5Ax, I raised 5BB on the flop, he called, the turn came 4, I raised 5BB, he called, the turn came X, I went all in, he called and showed 23rd.

23o !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's all very well that the board was connected, but who would have thought that someone would raise pre-flop with 23o?

EDIT: I forgot to complete the reasoning -> I don't understand how someone raises with 23o ... to me this must be a guy who plays higher limits, and is strolling through the micro to de-stress ... to this guy, $5 is blind ... to me it's deep stack ...

Leandrinhuu: Paying a raise of 23 is idiotic, a bug like that should be banned.

I hate that.

Yesterday a son of a bitch called me with a 3bet of 8:spade:4:spade: I K:diamond:K:club: flopped K:spade: 3:spade: 6:diamond: shoved on the flop the son of a bitch called me and on the turn hit the son of a bitch's flush...

And if I'm not mistaken, it was an NL25 table...

now tell me if a disgrace like that doesn't have to die.

LeoNeto: tell me if such a disgrace doesn't have to die.

of course he has to die, and I mean it: he has to die very slowly !!!

Minored: without a doubt one thing I've learned with practice is to stop tilting, I only tilt now if I spend like more than 5k hands running bad, but then I stop and continue playing normally the next day

to play cash you have to be able to control the tilt well and withstand those 23o's of life, otherwise it's a failure

marshal: Paying a raise of 23 is idiotic, a bug like that should be banned.

I hate that.

Yesterday a son of a bitch called me with a 3bet of 8:spade:4:spade: I K:diamond:K:club: flopped K:spade: 3:spade: 6:diamond: shoved on the flop the son of a bitch called me and on the turn hit the son of a bitch's flush...

And if I'm not mistaken, it was an NL25 table...

now tell me if a disgrace like that doesn't have to die.

If the guys who give these calls die, I'll stop playing poker, they're the ones who give the bulk of the money.

Marcelo: A good start to learning how to deal with tilt is to watch this interview with Ivey after he lost the biggest pot in television history, $1M+.

(forward to 1m31s)

"It was easy for me, because I play poker everyday almost, so those hands come up all the time. Sometimes you are on the right end of 'em, sometimes you are not"

YouTube - 10/10 Million Dollar Cash Game S04E04 Season 4 Episode 4

Marcelo: If the guys who give these calls die I'll stop playing poker, they're the ones who give the bulk of the money

That's right. Of course it sucks to lose a few hands like that, but usually I'm left laughing, imagining how bad this guy is and how good it is to have players like that at the tables.

If everyone was TAG with ABC poker in the micro-limits, it would be difficult to raise a bankroll.

PokerBrasileiro: A good start to learning how to deal with tilt is to watch this interview with Ivey after he lost the biggest pot in television history, of $1M+

(forward to 1m31s)

"It was easy for me, because I play poker everyday almost, so those hands come up all the time. Sometimes you are on the right end of 'em, sometimes you are not"

YouTube - 10/10 Million Dollar Cash Game S04E04 Season 4 Episode 4

In fact, there's nothing better to learn from playing than having greater emotional control.

The "extra-technical" and often "extra-game" factors have an overwhelming effect on the play of even the greatest players in the game (if they are not properly balanced).

Of course, this problem is much less common for experienced players and winners than it is for beginners or losers.

Thus, by playing a lot, you learn to control yourself and you also discover that the long term is what counts, something that those who play little or almost nothing (in volume) would never discover.

In any case, I think it's difficult to achieve any substantial improvement in your level of play through practice alone. Nowadays, poker is like the Copa Libertadores, we don't have as many fools and the fools aren't as stupid as they were when online gambling exploded in the world.

Keeping up with the evolution of the "critical mass" and staying above average (technically and psychologically) is essential for anyone who wants to succeed with poker.

JRS: I liked it better now that you've started the "Where to Train Poker?" thread because it's congruent with this one! They are two sides of the same coin. No matter how the two are conducted, they are indispensable to each other. This should characterize poker as a sport, all the more so because it's part of training and trying to execute the training in the game. As well as technique and psychology, another differentiator in sport, which make winners.

Ace of Spades: I've been playing poker for three months and now I've decided to play for real, not as a professional, but more seriously, as the friend above said, as a sport.
What have I learned in the three months I've been playing?

Studying is fundamental, exchanging information with other players is also highly necessary and, of course, playing... I think that if you achieve a balance of all three, your game will only get better.

I've even had the idea of creating a diary since the day I made the decision to improve my game and two days ago I turned it into a blog.
For those interested...
I'd like to have someone to help me on this journey that I've committed myself to and give me some tips and comments.

And taking advantage of the post... JRS, I believe that poker is practiced even if you break your face, there's no way to do friendlies like in other sports, it's always for real... (And I agree with Tex Wilde when he says in the topic that there's no way to compare play money with cash), but I'm not too experienced to have any strength in the argument...

JRS: Every opinion is always important, even if it's contrary to a certain position. Always give your opinion to spark discussion. In the end, perhaps you will maintain your position or change your mind!!! This is a democratic space!!!

Original author: prof_anselmo.