Anything to say about the tournament?

GremistaEterno: Hey guys, I'm opening up here if anyone wants to share any comments about the tournament.

Anything.

Cheers

Garden: 1 - I thought the guys messed up too much... Seriously, it's one thing to play loose, it's another to pay even with 72o... The number of bad beats was absurd... It felt like I was playing playmoney... Then it really gets complicated, it becomes random luck...

2 - I didn't like that there was no hand history in the room (at least, I didn't think so)

3 - I thought the blinds went up too quickly... the tournament was too short, a 9-person SNG lasts much longer than the little over 60 minutes of our tournament...

4 - All in all, congratulations to everyone.

GremistaEterno: I agree with all of JardimDNS's points, the game was very loose and unnecessarily aggressive. A few minutes ago, I commented to Petrillo, a sit and go of 9 lasts longer and is much more difficult to win than this tournament.

I hope that in the next one, our fellow participants will show progress.

Cheers, good game.

tricolordepoa: I also thought the guys were a bit crazy at the start, they were fighting over the pots lol... then it got so crazy that awey came 4th! But it was worth it, I'm looking forward to the next ones, towards the wsop case heheh!

Vadiu: and I'm still out of the house....

brunomulato: I don't think those points were a problem. Even though I've gone out on bad beats myself, what I really want is for my opponents to keep calling my allins with marginal hands. Remember, there will be several tournaments and the best player tends to be rewarded in the long run. If someone just got lucky in this tournament and played without technique, it's unlikely that they'll be able to repeat good results in the next ones. I was just very unlucky, my hands were all 27th, 49th, 310th, and so on... I went out once with AK and doubled up and once with AA and took a bad beat that cost me the tournament. That's it and good luck in the next ones!

GremistaEterno: Bruno, that's right, the good player has long-term results.

Jardim: of course Bruno, but you have to agree that it's ridiculous to play like this... This is pure luck...

brunomulato: There's a lesson I learned in poker that applies to everything in life. There's no point in getting upset or angry about defeats or failures, whatever the reason. The best thing you can do is pick your head up and re-analyze what you might have done that led to that result. If you find a mistake, fix it. If you think you've done the best you can, the best you can, keep at it and one day you'll be rewarded. So, no matter whether you lose because of luck or lack of skill, stay calm, congratulate your competitors (after all, they were better than you in practice) and look for their weaknesses and your strengths. And use that against them, but without offending and/or belittling anyone. Always keep an open mind and look for where you could have made better choices. If you always think that you're losing because of bad luck, you won't evolve, because you won't be able to find and correct your own mistakes.

Jardim: of course Bruno, but no one said otherwise...

😉

brunomulato: of course Bruno, but you have to agree that it's ridiculous to play like this... This is pure luck...

I know you didn't say the opposite, but you acted. The sentence above shows that. Calling a teammate's actions ridiculous and saying that he won by sheer luck is disrespectful, to say the least. Of course, you can say that, but not in those words. This "ridiculous" way of playing meant that you and I left the tournament by "luck". But we were defeated anyway and we should know how to lose, even when we lose to someone who does everything wrong, acting exactly the way we wanted during a hand. Don't take it personally, I'm just saying that you should collect friends at a poker table, not enemies. Besides, if you're angry with a player at the table and you lose a hand to him, you'll certainly get into a tilt and start making worse and worse plays. Compare Phil Hellmuth's attitude with Daniel Negreanu's at a poker table. Which of the two do you feel better about when you're eliminated? Which one do you go out of your way to eliminate? Always be very polite at a poker table, even if they're not being polite to you.

Jardim: I have the slight impression that I'm misunderstood here. Bruno, I didn't say that my elimination was ridiculous. None of this has anything to do with whether or not I was lucky. I've eliminated someone like that too. Under totally different circumstances, but it was also a lucky break. Losing is part of poker. In fact, it's part of any game. Nobody always wins. I'm not referring to that at all...

I'm talking about a poker forum tournament being played like this, worse than a playmoney SNG!!!!

Our tournament lasted less than a 9-person SNG.

What I'm trying to say is that the way things have gone, it gets complicated. Are we here to learn, study and train, or not? This tournament didn't do me any good in any of those three areas.

And that's what I took part in. In other words, it didn't add anything to me, and it wasn't what I expected.

They've ruined the tournament too much. As Petrillo said, it's like bingo.
I don't think this is the purpose of a league here on the forum, the prize doesn't matter to me at all, I want to follow the objectives mentioned above, learn, study and train, but anyway, I'm me...

brunomulato: Jardim, you can't determine how your opponents will play against you. If this style has hindered you, that's a point for whoever applied it against you. I don't understand why you can't learn anything from this tournament, there are very clear things that you yourself have listed that are important to realize. I still think you're just complaining and not paying enough attention to the facts because you lost in a way that you think your opponent played badly. Note that this tournament had few participants, it was a freeroll and only the top 3 would be rewarded. Imagine that you are a below average player. As only the top 3 players win prizes and there is no buy-in, it would be a valid strategy to play very loose at the start and try to double up and take out superior opponents based on luck, as you don't think you can do it with skill. So don't criticize an opponent's way of playing without valid arguments, especially when they've performed better than you.

Petrillo: Great guys!

First, I'd like to congratulate the three winners.

My participation was almost negligible. And I think the main factor was the wrong psychological preparation.

Let's take a look at the main moments.

After folding the first four hands, I'm in MP with AJo and the hand folds to me. I raise to 60 (BB on 20) and the player on my left (barakai) re-raises to 100, I get paid for two, and I complete. The pot is around 420.

Flop: xxx

I ask the crowd to calm down and everyone checks in.

Turn: A

As the second to speak, I bet 250. Barakai raises to 500 and Wikai calls. The other folds and with 1150 behind, AJ in the hand, and the pot at something like 1700, I either go all in or fold. I respected the guys, giving at least AQ+ to one of the two, maybe two pair. I folded.

In the showdown barakai shows QdTd and Wikai shows A6o...

It kind of put me off... I was hoping that the tournament would be on a better level, even though it was a freeroll. So that everyone could play some good poker. But that's not what happened...

Back in the game, the table turns and I get KdQd in EP. Blinds at 15/30 and I raise to 120. Barakai re-raises to 350 (leaving me about 400 behind). I go all in and he calls, showing 99. We go to the coin flip and nothing helps me, and I'm left with something like 380 chips...

In the next hand I get A4 and go all in and nobody pays. In BB I get AQo and tell him I'm huge. Tricolor raises and I'm all in with 460 chips... He calls and shows QJ. There's no bad beat and I'm back to 850 chips...

At this point I could calm down, slow down the rotation... But I get KQo in MP. I raise to 150 and GremistaEterno (MrAbaddon) re-raises to 560. I should have folded, but I was overwhelmed by so many re-raises, so I called.

Flop: xxQ

I go all in with my last 460 chips (pot at 1120), which is paid off by the Gremista with his last 345 chips, with an absolute AA. Justice is done and I'm left with just 115 chips. In the next hand I get K3s with blinds at 25/50 and of course I go all in and get paid by AJ who holds and eliminates me.

What eliminated me wasn't the unnecessary KQs x 99 coin flip, or the sadness of hitting a Q top pair with a K kicker, being short stacked and totally committed to the pot, just when the Gremista had AA (a hand he received 3 times during the tournament!). Let alone the all in with K3s.

What really eliminated me in 13th place out of 17 players was folding my AJ when I was far ahead. It shook me emotionally, as I was in the mood for another kind of race. It was a great lesson. And this fold was very wrong, simply because it wasn't a US$ 10k buy-in tournament, but a freeroll.

I've played maybe 300 freerolls, with MTT being the one I've played the most. And I know how to play them, because I have experience, a specific strategy and several good results. But this one I thought would be different and I played differently. And my mistake was fatal.

The winning strategy was to only get involved with QQ+, AQs+ or AKo at the start. And to be very aggressive when it came to a pot. Simple.

I thought I was going to be able to play a technical game. What a fool I was... And a fool falls quickly...

Once again I prove that poker is not luck.

But wait for me: the next stage is already scheduled and the leaders better watch out, because I'm in the running!!!

Thanks guys!

Petrillo: I understand what Jardim is saying, but Bruno is right.

I don't know about you, but I played it very wrong thinking that a freeroll would be civilized... What a duck I was!!!!

I really wanted the competition to be more technical, because the forum has a very good level and I thought that level would be repeated in the tournament...

But that's okay.

If the blinds went up less quickly and/or the starting stacks were bigger, the technique would be more evident... Here's a suggestion, if it's possible.

Guys, comment on your main hands here!

Thanks, and let's do more!

PS: please also report your difficulties in registering, receiving a password, etc...

Antonucci82: Hey guys, I was really excited about the tournament, but a problem with Paradise here at home made it impossible for me to play, unfortunately. Congratulations to everyone who took part. Next time I'll play, even if I have to go to the internet!

Marcelo: Guys, unfortunately I couldn't take part, but I'll be at the next ones.

I'll try to change the format for the second tournament, which will take place on the 24th.

If it doesn't look good on Paradise, I'll negotiate with other sites.

Soon I plan to hold a tournament with a low buy-in, but only if we have interest.

Register now for the 24th by clicking on the league link at the top of the forum.

Marcelo: By the way, how many people took part?

Jardim: Bruno, it's okay, I understand your thinking...

Marcelo, if I'm not mistaken, there were 17.

Jardim: Guys, I was very excited about the tournament, but a problem with Paradise here at home made it impossible for me to play, unfortunately. Congratulations to everyone who took part. I'll play in the next stage, even if I have to go to the internet!

What happened to Antonucci? You really couldn't find it?

Marcelo: Guys, about the level of the tournament: freerolls are like that, people come along who are interested in trying for a jackpot and sign up without even joining or reading the forum.

We have to take it easy and not stress too much. For my part, I'd only run buy-in tournaments, but we know that many forum participants don't have the facility to deposit in the promotion's poker rooms.

I'll think of some way of trying to improve the quality of the next ones, but stay tuned as it's not possible to totally control who enters or doesn't enter the tournament.

Some ideas:
1. games with a (small) buy-in
2. Exclusive tournaments for those with a certain number of forum posts
... I look forward to your suggestions.

Jardim: I agree with your comment Marcelo. I think we should set a minimum number of posts.

Or identify by some kind of frequency on the forum.

Buy in, as you said, some users have difficulty depositing in poker rooms.

But for me, either way will work just fine.

Abs

Jonny Baltazar: I agree too... a good poker room would be FullTilt... what do you think?

We can also arrange a live tournament during the vacations... bus travel is cheap :thumbsup:

Petrillo: Putz, only I posted my hands!!! 🙁

There were actually 17.

Now I'm really excited about the League!

Let's get involved!

Marcelo: Guys, I need the final result to score.

Does anyone have one?

GremistaEterno: Man, I don't remember the first one, but tr1color was second and I was third

brunomulato: I came seventh, for what it's worth... How high do you want to know?

Garden: the winner is user bloodwrathz

from nick bloodz0r on paradise.

Petrillo: I was 13th...

Marcelo: There's a lesson I learned in poker that applies to everything in life. There's no point in getting upset or angry about defeats or failures, whatever the reason. The best thing you can do is pick your head up and re-analyze what you might have done that led to that result. If you find a mistake, fix it. If you think you've done the best you can, the best you can, keep at it and one day you'll be rewarded.

Congratulations Bruno. This really applies to poker and other even more important subjects.

We learn much more from defeats than from victories. But to do this, you have to study the defeat in depth. In the case of poker, I like to evaluate the history of the tournaments in which I've lost, in all the hands in which I've been involved. This is essential.

GremistaEterno: Marcelo, what will the scoring be like? Have you set up the board and will you make it available to forum members?

And on the question of who enters the tournament, it would be a great idea to have X number of posts to be able to participate, after all many people are joining and registering on the forum just for the fact that there is a Poker Tips League to offer them a private freeroll tournament, and also compete for the chip bag and the book.

Cheers and have a good game.

brunomulato: I think that if there is a minimum number of posts it should be weekly, fortnightly, I don't know, because otherwise people join the forum, write several "interesting" posts and after they complete the minimum requirement they stop contributing to the forum. It would be something like active and inactive users.

Marcelo: This active user idea is a good one.

As for the score, I'll let you know by the end of the week.

digobr69: I couldn't take part in this stage, I was late for college hehe
but next time it's a good game

abs

Original author: GremistaEterno.